People have raced to conclusions based on the fact he went to Thailand. Claims based on the likes on his videos that the majority of exJWs believe him and that he is entitled to a private life and this has been violated. Says a minority on Twitter are raising up a frenzy and it only appears that most are against him but it is not the case. The line has been crossed and it is no longer whistleblower and has turned into bullying.
Brings up accusations of child grooming, wife beating, people calling social services to take his children away. Says people are bullying him and Andrew claims he’s a victim of cancel culture. Lloyd doesn’t like that term and calls it “consequence culture” When you do wrong things there should be consequences. Andrew asks if he thinks he did anything wrong. Lloyd replies that he was unfaithful to his wife and that is the extent of it. It’s an issue between him and his wife, and blames others for making it so difficult to navigate these problems with his with due to the defamation, bullying and the “Twitter witch hunt”. “I’ve never handled bullies well and it’s kind of the reason why I started my activism against JWs” He refuses to be bullied or allow these bullies to tell him he can no longer be an activist. Takes on a forceful tone when saying this.
Andrew brings up he thinks there are three groups, his supporters, his detractors and a middle group that is torn. Won’t Lloyd apologize for his actions to them if has stumbled them? Answers “I’ve only ever in my 42 years have had sex with consenting adults and that’s the end of the matter”. No apology. Says he is a flawed individual and leaves it at that. Says he understands why people might be disappointed in this, but notes that the same people were born into a culture of sexual repression and his infidelity with sex workers is extremely taboo to these people. He doesn’t owe any apology, in fact he takes apologies very seriously and those who know him well know that he apologizes quite frequently. If he apologizes to people as Andrew suggests, it weakens the apology he has given to his wife (which makes absolutely no sense). Again brings up that sex was between consenting adults.
Claims most people are with him, and the mob on Twitter wish to see him destitute on the street.
Andrew tries to press him that you can never be sure about the “consenting adults” part of it especially when it pertains to sex workers. Lloyd cuts him off, acknowledges there are huge problems with sex trafficking in Thailand but to jump to conclusions about what someone goes there for is racist. Says people are being condescending about the country and says he chose Thailand because he wanted to go to Asia for the first time. Thought it was exotic, wanted to experience the food, the scuba diving, the culture, etc. Says his decision to go had nothing to do with sex workers. Andrew tries to pin him down on the sex worker angle, again Lloyd cuts him off and said he had been frequenting sex workers in other countries before Thailand as if that were proof in itself he didn’t go there for that.
Says that when he went to Thailand, him and his wife were ”separated”. People forget that there’s a real person behind all this with a private life with children and real mental health problems. Strange tangent as he implies his wife and him were through and brings up him and his kids. Gets animated. Admits he had to start taking anti-depressants in the last few weeks as it has been so “overwhelming”. Says the tide is starting to turn in his favour and common sense is returning to the exJW community that this is a flawed individual, that’s all.